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Kingpin
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Joined: Aug 17, 2001
Posted: Mar 04, 2003 2:00 PM

Now here's something intresting for all fanfic writers, a list of details about the different team members, however this list is outdated and has some incorrect facts:

Ghostbusters Canon List


Tha's why I plan on making a copy of this list and making some revisions, as well as mentioning those involved in creating the original list, once it's ready I'll retitle this topic and post the fact list, I'll include big and little details from the show.

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Veedramon
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Joined: Feb 03, 2003
Posted: Mar 11, 2003 10:53 PM

That is a great list, Kingpin, and I found some of the speculations Labidolemur included fascinating. I look forward to seeing your final result.

One thing I wonder is, not knowing your personal stand on EGB, whether you would include a fact or two related to the original Ghostbusters? Combining RGB's "Brooklyn Triangle" with EGB's "The Crawler", "Sphinx", and "Back In The Saddle" we can pin down Egon and Janine's birthdays down to within a month or so...Let me know, M'kay?

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Kingpin
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Posted: Mar 12, 2003 2:42 PM

if it's a fact about the guys, wherever from, it's welcome

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Veedramon
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Posted: Mar 13, 2003 10:18 AM

Okay, Kingpin, here goes:

Facts about the original Ghostbusters established by Extreme Ghostbusters:

Winston Zeddemore: Has a sister, who apparently lives "out West", possibly near Winston in Montana ("Back In the Saddle, Part One")

Slimer: (Not a Ghostbuster, but still a major character in the cartoons): Steamed Broccholi is the one food he will not eat ("Fear Itself")

Janine Melnitz: Is a Scorpio ("The Crawler"), born somewhere between October 23-November 22. In RGB's "Brooklyn Triangle", she shows Egon her graduation picture in a yearbook dated 1977--assuming an age of 18 in 1977, she was born somewhere between October 23-November 22, 1958 (A post somewhere mentions Annie Potts' birthday as October 28, take that for what it's worth...)

Egon Spengler: First, we will assume that the events of XGB occur in 1997, the year that the show aired. In "Sphinx", Egon informs Garrett that he is thirty-nine years old. In "Back In The Saddle" Egon is celebrating a birthday, and it is mentioned that Thanksgiving is "next week". "Back In the Saddle" aired before "Sphinx", but for three reasons I place "Sphinx" first in the continuity: 1) Egon indulges in the same sort of hasty antics he tries to talk Venkman and the others out of in "Back In the Saddle" 2) Reunion of the original Ghostbusters strikes me as a very appropriate 40th birthday present. 3) "Sphinx" was produced before "Back In The Saddle". Thanksgiving was on November 28, 1997--thusly, Egon would've been born on or around November 21, 1957. (I mention November 1957 in my story "Fateful Encounter")

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Veedramon
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Posted: Mar 18, 2003 7:01 PM

The subject of Ghostbuster birthdays came up on the "It's Coming Post", and I copied a some of my stuff on the subject and placed it here. I left Egon and Janine off because I covered them above...

The only official, Columbia-licensed material in this area to my knowledge is the 1989 GBI role-playing game, which simply lists the ages of the main characters, and at least three of them aren't accurate according to RGB and XGB references. As GBI presumably takes place "after" GB2, I presume these are their 1990 ages...

Dana Barrett: Age 34 (Born around 1956)

Ray Stantz: Age 37 (Born around 1953) Again, wrong. "It's About Time" establishes him as being born in 1959 (would be 31 in 1990.

Louis Tully: Age 30 (Born around 1960)

Peter Venkman: Age 36 (Born around 1954) Date is Oct.23-Nov.22, per "Lean Green Teen Machine".

Winston Zeddemore: Age 28 (Born around 1962) Has to be way off--no way Winston could have fought in Vietnam if he was this young. I'd say arbitrarily add about ten years to his age.



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--Dr. Fritz V. Baugh, Mad Scientist and Official Historian of Ghostbusters: West Coast Division
Also known as GBCentral's Doc Fritz
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Kingpin
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Posted: Mar 19, 2003 1:32 PM

Thanks for the details.

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Veedramon
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Posted: Mar 30, 2003 7:30 PM

About an hour ago I finally excavated my collection of Now's Real Ghostbusters comics. In a couple of weeks, after I've had time to reread and take notes on them all, I plan to post a set of "comic canon" fact in this thread.

(Yeah, I need a couple of weeks. I got a job and everything...sorry...)

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Veedramon
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Posted: Apr 01, 2003 7:54 PM

Post removed 40503

It was all the stuff my Great Friend Doc Ryedale covers below, anyway...

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Doc Ryedale
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Posted: Apr 04, 2003 11:30 PM

Alright! I'll just post this here. Now, if only the Mods can make this topic a sticky... wink

smile smile smile HERE IT IS! THE GHOSTBUSTERS FACT LIST LINKS! EVERYONE PLEASE TAKE A LOOK!

As I promised earlier, here are the direct links to the pages with Ghostbusters’ Profiles. You’ll find hobbies, background info, family info, etc., and more than enough info to help out the writers of “It”. The Following links are ALL official info learned from the movies and RGB. Following the links, you’ll find info on the Ghostbusters’ Ancestry and Geneology that were learned from RGB and a deleted scene from GB II.

Dr. Peter Venkman:
Fire Frog
Ghostbusters ‘86

Dr. Egon Spengler:
Fire Frog
Ghostbusters ‘86

Dr. Raymond Stantz:
Fire Frog
Ghostbusters ‘86

Winston Zeddemore:
Fire Frog
Ghostbusters ‘86

Janine Melnitz:
Fire Frog
Ghostbusters ‘86

Slimer:
Fire Frog
Ghostbusters ‘86

The Real Ghostbusters Canon List is another GREAT link that Veedramon and Kingpin found. And in The Ghostbusters Fact list you'll find the corrections that Veedramon and Kingpin made, and also some other official facts that we learned later on.

Ghost Classification System
The Ghostbusters' Class System

Equipment:
Fire Frog

The Following is a page with a fan’s theories on how various pieces of equipment work. Even though the info on the following link is not all official, it’s interesting, and I encourage you to take a look:
The River of Slime’s Proton Lab

The Ancestry and Geneology of the Ghostbusters

Dr. Peter Venkman:
RGB - Unknown.
Deleted from GB II - According to him, he's a little bit of everything. Some Irish, some German, some French, Dutch. No information was found on the Surname "Venkman", and so I believe it's fictitious. I've searched online Phone Books, and have found no listings for any "Venkmans". Also, I asked my Uncle to look into the surname "Venkman", and he told me something interesting. He believes that it's a name made up, as an inside joke. He says Venk, Vink, or Fink is some sort of foreign word. I think it may mean something like a rascal, a rodent, or a con.

Dr. Egon Spengler:
RGB - Well, we learn that in the late 17th Century, that his great-great-great-Grandfather was Eli Spengler, who lived in Lewiston, Maine (If I Were a Witch Man). On another note, in that episode, an error in continuity occurred, in which Egon incorrectly referred to Eli Spengler as his Grandma Spengler's great-great Grandfather. What Egon meant to say was his Grandpa Spengler's great-great-Grandfather. His Grandma Spengler was telling Egon about his Grandpa Spengler’s great-great-Grandfather. That was an error on the Writer's part, and I'm glad I corrected it. tongue And we also learn of another Ancestor, Zedekiah Spengler (Egon's Dragon).
Deleted from GB II - According to him, his ancestors came to NY from Ostrov, Eastern Poland. I've also found out that the surname "Spengler" has German origins.

Dr. Raymond Stantz:
RGB - Scottish (Bustman takes a Holiday) and Russian (Russian About).
Deleted from GB II - According to him, his great-grandparents were Swiss. He has pictures they took of the Statue of Liberty from the Boat when they arrived in NY. I've also found out that the surname "Stantz" has Swiss origins.

Winston Zeddemore:
RGB - I believe he is the reincarnation of an African Prince (Moaning Stones).
Deleted from GB II - According to him, his ancestors came to Charleston, SC, from Africa on a Ship. No information was found on the Surname "Zeddemore", and so I believe it's fictitious. I've searched online Phone Books, and have found no listings for any "Zeddemores".

Janine Melnitz:
RGB – According to Veedramon, J. Michael Stracynski has mentioned that she is of Jewish descent. I’ve searched for information on the surname, “Melnitz”, and it is indeed legitimate. I've found listings for people with that surname on Geneology pages. Unfortunately, none of my Geneology pages have any background info or origins for it. But it's probably a Jewish, German or Slavic surname.

Dana Barrett:
Deleted from GB II – According to her, her ancestors came to North America in 1620. And of course, I’m sure they came over on the Mayflower.

In closing this reply, I would just like to tell everyone involved in “It”, that they should put this info to use. I’d also like to thank Veedramon and Kingpin for all of the wonderful help they’ve given in finding and posting this info. The links above that list character info, are all taken from the movies and RGB episodes. I also would encourage you to watch RGB episodes, if they’re available to you. You may learn more. It’s Fascinating. And to everyone involved in "It", GOOD LUCK!!! smile smile smile wink

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"Hey, do you believe in God? Well I do. Praise the Lord and pass the Particle Throwers! I love Jesus' style. . . "
"Back off, man, I'ma Genealogist!"
They don’t just call them The Real Ghostbusters for no reason! Take a look at Take Two, Citizen Ghost, The Ghostbusters Omnibus Timeline, THE GHOSTBUSTERS FACT LIST, and RGB Truly Canon with the Movies?, and you’ll see why!
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Kingpin
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Posted: Apr 05, 2003 7:34 PM

Wow, this is great, the fic and IT people will really benefit from your work Doc and Veerdramon smile

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Veedramon
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Joined: Feb 03, 2003
Posted: Apr 05, 2003 9:55 PM

You're very welcome, Kingpin. Now how are those revisions to the main list going? smile

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Also known as GBCentral's Doc Fritz
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Kingpin
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Posted: Apr 06, 2003 7:02 PM

They're going good, though I still need to see some eps.

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Doc Ryedale
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Posted: Apr 06, 2003 11:01 PM

"Wow, this is great, the fic and IT people will really benefit from your work Doc and Veedramon"

You mean OUR work, don't you. wink ALL three of us have put our hard work into this. smile It's great to help each other out. I hope "It" will put that info to use. Be sure to add anything we've listed that's not already in the main list to the main list. Good Luck!!! smile smile smile

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"We're on a mission from God!"
"Hey, do you believe in God? Well I do. Praise the Lord and pass the Particle Throwers! I love Jesus' style. . . "
"Back off, man, I'ma Genealogist!"
They don’t just call them The Real Ghostbusters for no reason! Take a look at Take Two, Citizen Ghost, The Ghostbusters Omnibus Timeline, THE GHOSTBUSTERS FACT LIST, and RGB Truly Canon with the Movies?, and you’ll see why!
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missjanine
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Joined: Nov 12, 2001
Posted: Apr 07, 2003 7:27 AM

Ray was always called the youngest. Where did that start? Was it ever mentioned in RGB, or was it a fanfic thing?

I figured, in age from oldest to youngest, it was:

Winston/Egon(could be either one)
Peter
Janine
Ray

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"If you want to destroy me, Janine, I won't try to stop you. But, remember this- I love you." -Egon, "Janine, You've Changed"
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Doc Ryedale
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Posted: Apr 07, 2003 3:04 PM

I think the order from oldest to youngest would be:
Winston
Egon
Peter
Ray

As for Janine, I don't really know. But Ray being the youngest was established in RGB, I think.

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"We're on a mission from God!"
"Hey, do you believe in God? Well I do. Praise the Lord and pass the Particle Throwers! I love Jesus' style. . . "
"Back off, man, I'ma Genealogist!"
They don’t just call them The Real Ghostbusters for no reason! Take a look at Take Two, Citizen Ghost, The Ghostbusters Omnibus Timeline, THE GHOSTBUSTERS FACT LIST, and RGB Truly Canon with the Movies?, and you’ll see why!
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Veedramon
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Joined: Feb 03, 2003
Posted: Apr 07, 2003 8:23 PM

Ghostbusters International, the rulebook listed above, would lead us to believe Venkman is actually a couple years older than Egon, but take it with a grain of salt as always: it was officially licensed by Columbia, but as I've also explained some of the ages are clearly contradicted by onscreen references. Of course, even if Egon is younger than Venkman, he's a prodigy anyway--and a lot more mature in most ways, if nothing else.

I'm continuing to go through my Now comics backlog, and it's been great. Oh, the memories... smile

Twinkies and Cokes all around, Doc and Kingpin. You guys rock.

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--Dr. Fritz V. Baugh, Mad Scientist and Official Historian of Ghostbusters: West Coast Division
Also known as GBCentral's Doc Fritz
Visit The Digibusters Ectozone, home of the Ghostbusters Omnibus Timeline!!!!! and the New Ghostbusters Timeline!. The Ectozone is a member of the GB Community Board
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Egon and Janine Forever!!!
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