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Author How does one start to go about building the car?
SaugusGB
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Posted: Sep 02, 2002 5:58 PM

Thanks for the support guys

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venkman71
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Posted: Sep 02, 2002 11:29 PM

I don't think the mention of your age was intended to offend you but you must realize,..there seems to be a contingent of under eighteen GB fans out there that like to talk out of their asses about building an ecto-1. Obviously this does not apply to you.
That being said,..I am about a month away form completing my ecto conversion and 59' Caddy rennovation.
As Ecto 1-A stated, he spent $60,000 on his but I believe it was a turn-key when he picked it up,..that is to say, He didn't have a whole lot to do in the initial process of actually restoring his replica.
I went exactly halfway between restoring one myself and having a turn-key. I bought the Caddy from a guy in Jersey last September and had it shipped out here to California. It has been at the restoration yard ever since. I supervised the restoration and directed the various stages of the mechanical and body work. At the same time I hanted down every nut, bolt, siren, light and hose for the damn thing. What I couldn't find I had made. What I could, I made myself. From the Code 3 force 4XL oversize lightbars to the federal model 18 solaray to the Aviation strobe from Whelan engineering, and the four blue unity decklights with custom mounting brackets, nearly everything on the car is a dead on match. At the end of this month it will be done and exactly a year nearly to the date that I picked the car up.
And all with a $35,000 price tag.
At the beginning of the year I am launching a website with detailed schematics, measurements and illustrations as well as a list of every penny I spent and what I spent it on, and most importantly,..a list of all my sources and where I found everything.
I suggest that if you do, indeed, have $30,00 to spend, save $5,000 more and start combing the classic auto traders for the Caddy. That will be your biggest challenge.
Good luck.
Sean
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TheEcto1a
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Posted: Sep 02, 2002 11:37 PM

Unfortunately $30k isn't going to go as far as you think on an Ecto replica. The Cars are Expensive to begin with, and its not unheard of to put $30k or more into restoration alone. (Before you start converting it into an Ecto) Hypothetically speaking spending your $30k would probably go something like this:

Locating a Rusty, semi functional '59 Ambulance/Hearse: $5000 (If you are lucky)

Shipping it from wherever it is to you: $1700

Mechanical Repair: $10k-15K. (Even a Car that *SEEMS* to run OK is going to need mechanical repair, and NOTHING is cheap to fix. Basic suspension work will set you back $4-5K most times. Alot of the mechanical parts on a '59 are EXCLUSIVE to a '59 so parts are very scare and seriously expensive. Ex: $195 EACH for rusty, used brake drums. Then you have to have them turned and HOPE there is enough left to keep them within specs. If not, you are out almost $800 as there are no promises made on used parts.)

Body Work/Rust Repair: $8k-$25K depending on how much hidden rust there is to be fixed..

At this Point, your $30k budget is GONE, and you really don't even have a running, drivable car yet..

If you need to replace a windshield they can run as much as $1800 just for the glass, then you have to ship it and have it installed. Curved glass for the rear quarter panels are almost nonexistent now and last time I saw them they were running about $2100 EACH SIDE.

Paint work is going to run you $8k-15K depending on how good a job you want done. (Earl Shieb and Maaco are NOT going to paint a vintage coach for $150, regardless of what their ads say on TV)

If the Chrome needs to be re plated, that's pretty pricey as well, depending on what needs to be done..

Building all the gear for the roof will cost you time and materials if you do it yourself, more if you have it done for you.. Lights and associated wiring will run you a couple of thousand. (And you DO NOT want to cut corners on wiring, as a Fire over your head isn't cool)

I've seen a couple of '59s for sale recently. One sold for about $30k and it was only partially restored. (Needed to be finished, and was a different style coach than the ecto was). There is a Eureka Hightop that did not sell for $50k, and I believe the restoration cost a decent bit more than the $50k they were asking..

I have more than $30k into the restoration of my Ambulance, NOT Counting the cost of the car to start with or shipping. And currently the ambulance is only partially in primer. Its need finish body work and full primer and then Paint. Then we work on Trim, Electrical, new Tires, replacing a muffler that exploded, and complete re fabrication of a new Vintage interior.. I'm just putting that car back together as it was new and its costing ALOT more than $30k.

I have more than $30k in accessories on my Ecto Replica, and more than $30 in mechanical repairs. And I bought the car painted and running..

I'm sure that $30k seems like a great budget for an Ecto replica, unfortunately, its really not too realistic from my experience putting '59s back together.

My advice would be if you can find a car for a decent price, Grab it and get it into enclosed storage. Then save up some more money and when you have a budget of about $60k, then start on the car..

TheEcto1a

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SaugusGB
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Posted: Sep 03, 2002 5:58 PM

Everyone can relax I found the car.It needs new paint little bit of body work little interior work,only 2,500 as soon as I figure out how to post pics you'll see it

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Ectoman
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Posted: Sep 03, 2002 6:26 PM

I hope you take what these 2 have said into perspective. There are 2 people in this thread who have posted that own replicas. I hope you do have enough money for this.

If I am thinking of the right coach, you are buying was the one on eBay a while ago? I remember that it wasn't the right model, but a Eureka (or Suprior?) with Landau bars, and a lot of missing parts. I hope you just know what you are getting into.

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SaugusGB
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Posted: Sep 03, 2002 6:46 PM

Actually I found this car searching through the archives at AutoTrader.com

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Posted: Sep 03, 2002 7:08 PM

What year? What make?

$2,500, man thats gonna need A LOT of work if you got it that cheap

How did you find the archives at autotrader.com? I looked (I wanted to see it) they only offer cars as old as 1984 there and there were no ads for ambulances 1959 - 1961 at the collector car site linked from there

Lets see the pics smile

There is a '61 M&M at hemmings.com and I got pics of that one, MAJOR work if someone wants to take that one on! I would not touch it myself, even if I had the $$

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Bobby J
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Posted: Sep 03, 2002 8:14 PM

I was just wondering. Couldn't you just convert A Fleetwood to an Ecto-1? They're abundant, just add a custom top to it, you'll get the same effect, it just wont' be as long.


Hey Joseph, it's me Bobby J. Are we still on for the collaboration? I'm really looking forward to it. Drop me a line, long time no reply. smile


Bobby J.

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TheEcto1a
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Posted: Sep 03, 2002 9:49 PM

Believe it or not, a Fleetwood is actually SHORTER than an Ecto. (I own a Fleetwood in addition to my Ecto, and I've measured them both.) The rear fenders are different on a fleetood, and it would be fairly difficult to make a fleetwood roofline look anywhere near an Ecto..

And if you are getting a coach for $2500, I can almost PROMISE that it will need some Major work to make sage to drive.. (Regardless of what the seller tells you, its going to need to be checked by a reputable mechanic that specializes in vintage cars. Normal mechanics dont have a clue.) most of these cars have rust Under the trim so its not visible in photos. Once you get it home and take the trim off to polish it up you discover that its covering up a fair amount of rust.

All of my '59s have cost more than $2500. Generally when you find a coach for that kind of money, its priced there for a reason.. PLEASE be cautious. AS I stated before, these cars are VERY Expensive to restore normally, and the odds of getting a coach Cheap that doesnt need any expensive work are roughly the same as walking down a street and finding the willing Lotto ticket sitting against the curb. ANY $2500 coach is going to need ALOT of money dumped into it to make safe and reliable. The more you spend on the car to start with, the less you have to put into it long term.

And just as a point of clarification, I believe someone stated that I purchased my Ecto "almost finished" for about $60k. That isnt correct. I didnt pay $60k, and it wasnt finished. smile It was painted and looked semi-presentable. But it needed some extensive mechanical repairs and upgrades. And we have reworked, redone or replaced almost every part of the car since we got it.

Currently as the car sits, I've turned down offers over $175k for the car. There are equipment and lighting differences between a 1 and a 1a, so the numbers that I've been mentioning may be different for a 1 replica. (Although I'm guessing that they will be close as the differences arent that drastic between version.) Also, you need to keep in mind the regional differences in restoration costs. Some parts of the country, labor is higher than others.. Some part of the country has higher markup on resale parts. Some resto shops will give you a discounted labor rate and inflate the parts prices. Some will charge you cost for parts and have a higher labor rate. Anyone that says they can do the work on an Ecto Replica "for Cheap" you should RUN away from. The only way to make a replica cheap is to cut corners. And that isnt SAFE. The car is too big, too heavy and when finished too valuable to risk parts that arent 100%.

Good luck with your project.. Please let me know how it goes.

TheEcto1a

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