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Author This just in! Anti-smoking Person semi-bashes Ghostbusters!
Slim Slimer

Joined: Oct 21, 2001
Posted: Jun 05, 2003 7:55 PM

Not much, but an interesting, if ignorant opinion on Ghostbusters. At the movie's page on, (great site) one Lawrence Raco said this about the movie...

OK, I'll go first. I don't think this movie gets the credit it deserves, probably because it might seem pretty juvenile and because the sequel wasn't very good. Nonetheless it has so many funny throwaway lines. Bill Murray and Rick Moranis are especially good. I would compare this movie to a Marx Brother's product. (Blasphemy). the only problem is annoying product placements and the most distacting smoking scenes I can remember in a movie. I wonder how much the tobacco industry sunk into this production. Nonetheless an inspired comedy. Maybe the best SNL cast movie.

To which I replied...
The product placements are nothing. They don't detract from the film at all. The ones I can think of off the top of my head are Cheez-its, Budweiser, a Crunch bar, and a Coke. The Coke is probably the only guilty one since Coke owned Columbia pictures back then. And what's wrong with smoking? Is this YMDB or The thing that makes Ghostbusters great is the fact that it's real. That it's set in a real environment that makes the appearance of a ghost believable or a marshmallow man incongruitous. The smoking adds to that. They're blue collar guys, like custodians. This just inforces it. It also adds the feeling of stress when they become "ghost-janitors". And I seriously doubt the tobacco industry put anything into this movie. You can't tell what brand they're smoking, which is important. The "tobacco industry" is not one giant conglomerate, you know. However, I think Ray might smoke Luckys. Either way, this film and it's sequel is the last time you'll see that much talent put into one movie.

Anyway, just wanted to see what you guys thought about the use of tobacco and possible product placement in the movie.


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Posted: Jun 06, 2003 6:08 PM

There IS a lot of smoking in the movie. While I wouldn't say that it detracts from the film, it doesn't add to it either. I doubt the film would be all that different if they didn't smoke in every other scene. Also, most films don't have that much smoking anyway, so the fact that Ghostbusters had as much as it did is pretty questionable.

What suprises me is that the guy forgets to mention that the film would later become very popular with children. Think about that: a movie popular with younger children where the heroes smoke every other scene. That, to me, is much more questionable than what he pointed out.
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Posted: Jun 06, 2003 6:17 PM

Did you add the "blasphemy" to that first paragraph, or did that guy put that in himself?


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Posted: Jun 06, 2003 6:28 PM

great job defending GB in your post slim, couldent have said it better.


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Posted: Jun 06, 2003 7:13 PM

yeah, good job, slim! to me, the smoking isn't that big of a deal. the product placements sorta make it seem more set in reality than, say, seeing a fake brand.

btw slim, where are you from? you look EXACTLY like someone that went to my high school.


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Slim Slimer

Joined: Oct 21, 2001
Posted: Jun 06, 2003 10:10 PM

No that was his blasphemy.

I think everyone should register at that site. It's cool as hell and it has rankings and discussions about the movies. You can post your top 20 favorite and least favorite movies.

Here's my list.


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Posted: Jun 06, 2003 10:40 PM

Well said. But hey, look at the bright side. At least people still THINK about ghostbusters.
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Posted: Jun 07, 2003 10:19 AM

Ghostbusters may have been more associated with kids when RGB was released, but the original movie was aimed at an adult audience.

Practically all the jokes in Ghostbusters are lost on children - and arn't really suitable anyway. The fact that there's a lot of smoking means nothing - well it doesn't mean advertising smoking to children anyway. Ghostbusters 2 was aimed more at children, however, hence no smoking at all in the movie. It's just the way things go - the original movie was for adults, they saw potential in it for a kid's series and changed it for the sequel. The original adult movie still remains, however and won't be changed.
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Slim Slimer

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Posted: Jun 07, 2003 2:59 PM

Ah! But Ray smoked a cigar in GB2! As a result I became a huge cigar smoker at the age of 5.


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Posted: Jun 08, 2003 4:20 AM

i'm just tired of the smoke nazis , i mean truth . we get the point , it gets really annoying , it's like being told every day that you're wrong . if they can have ads like that all over tv then tobacco companies should be able to advertize on tv , i'm not trying to turn this into a smoking debate , the last one didn't go well , it's just that people like this guy whining about the smoking in ghostbusters is the same kind of people running the smoke nazi commercials . but hell , people have a choice , thats what makes america so great , let that guy choose to think that smoking in ghostbusters is wrong , it's my choice to think he's an idiot and it's my choice to put my cigarette out on his face should i ever meet him wink


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Posted: Jun 08, 2003 4:31 AM

If anything, like you said, the only noticeable product placement was Coke. Which isnt that big of a deal. I mean, what kind of "Real Person" not fictional characters doesnt drink a Coke every now and then.

The smoking doesn't detract from the movie either. If anything it helps bring across the point that it is tuff and smoking/drinking is helping them relax. What kind of school janitor doesnt smoke? I've seen plenty in my time. Or a janitor that smells of smoke.

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Posted: Jun 10, 2003 12:49 AM

Ray smokes and holds a cigar in GB2 AND smokes his pipe in the book store. I am a smoker of cigars and pipes, partly because of my dad, and partly because of Ray hahaha. But seriously, they're adults, so even if kids see it, parents shouldn't be upset, they just need to talk to kids and point out that the ADULTS are smoking, and not the kids. Lighten up America, it's not other people's jobs to make sure others are healthy, but the responsibility falls to the individual and in the case of children, their parents.
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Posted: Jun 10, 2003 1:15 AM

This is just another example of someone who doesn't a good movie when they see one, even if it bit him on the.....ahem. What I meant to say was, this person whoever he is needs to get a life and quit whining about even the smallest details. Besides, he's probably one of those individuals who'd rather watch something tasteless, like oh I don't know, "American Pie" for example.


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