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Author Music? Where has it gone wrong?
Ema
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Joined: Feb 16, 2003
Posted: Jun 11, 2003 3:21 PM

I have to ask what ever happened to music. We used to have singers like Cab Calloway and Ray Charles. Then we had the Bee Gees and Chris Ree. Then there was Justin Timberlake and S Cub 7. Now we have the Cheeky Girls and Fast Food Rockers? Where has music gone wrong? On Saturday I was turning the stations over and I came to SM:TV Live with Fast Food Rockers on. By the time it was over my mouth was wide open.
What ever happened to the good old Blues?

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Turn your backs now and you snuff out the fragile candles of Blues, R&B, and Soul; and when those flames flicker and expire, the light of the world is extinguished because the music which has moved mankind through seven decades leading to the millenium will wither and die on the vine of abandonment and neglect. - Dan Aykroyd, Blues brothers 2000
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evil_toaster
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Joined: Oct 05, 2002
Posted: Jun 11, 2003 3:48 PM

It's still around, it's just not as popular.

According to the book of Ecclesiastes, there is a time and place for everything in this world. "A time to laugh, a time to cry; a time to plant, a time to reap, etc." There was a time for jazz, there was a time for blues, a time for doo-wop, a time for reggae, a time for grunge, a time for hair metal, a time for hippie music, and a time for arena rock, but there is also a time and place for bands like the Cheeky Girls and the Fast Food Rockers. Someday, in the next couple of decades most likely, they will follow the process of music and will be forgotten about by the majority.

They'll still be around, just not as popular. wink

Chris

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Ema
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Joined: Feb 16, 2003
Posted: Jun 11, 2003 3:59 PM

I don't want the Blues to die sad sad sad

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Turn your backs now and you snuff out the fragile candles of Blues, R&B, and Soul; and when those flames flicker and expire, the light of the world is extinguished because the music which has moved mankind through seven decades leading to the millenium will wither and die on the vine of abandonment and neglect. - Dan Aykroyd, Blues brothers 2000
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GBix
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Joined: Jun 25, 2002
Posted: Jun 11, 2003 5:12 PM

i wish there were more classic artists around these days. some are still alive...but sadly there's no big demand for them. some bands are still out there playing the blues, my personal favorite is George Thorogood & The Destroyers, they can still rock the blues. i've seen them 5 times, just keep getting better. but other than that, very few blues artists are main-stream nowadays. sad, yes.

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Slim Slimer
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Joined: Oct 21, 2001
Posted: Jun 11, 2003 6:45 PM

So how many decades did it take you to figure this all out?

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VenkmanGB1A
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Joined: Aug 14, 2002
Posted: Jun 11, 2003 8:28 PM

rock obtained perfection in 1974 and officially died in 1996 ....sometimes the pulse will beat and a good song will come out , but everything else now sounds the same , like crap

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Twister
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Joined: Jul 16, 2001
Posted: Jun 11, 2003 8:46 PM

Where did music go wrong you ask? That's simple...

Country & Western....The music from hell!

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Ema
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Joined: Feb 16, 2003
Posted: Jun 12, 2003 2:51 PM

Good point

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Turn your backs now and you snuff out the fragile candles of Blues, R&B, and Soul; and when those flames flicker and expire, the light of the world is extinguished because the music which has moved mankind through seven decades leading to the millenium will wither and die on the vine of abandonment and neglect. - Dan Aykroyd, Blues brothers 2000
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JohnnySparks
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Joined: Jul 02, 2002
Posted: Jun 12, 2003 7:03 PM

Simple, MTV and HIP HOP

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Bluto Blutarsky
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Joined: May 30, 2003
Posted: Jun 12, 2003 8:00 PM

I'm with you on this, Ema. I love blues music. I don't listen to any new stuff that's out there. Well, I used too, but over a year ago I stoped listening to it because I got into blues music and the stuff I used to listen to sounds like crap to me now. I'm 16 and I feel pretty detached from my generation because I'm not into pretty much anything that's popular. The only thing that I watch on MTV is The Osbournes, but that's because I'm an Ozzy fan. (And yes, I did like Ozzy before the show started.) I must admit that I do enjoy some 70's and 80's style heavy metal every now and then. But I'm mainly into blues, R&B (and I mean like James brown, etc. not Destiny's Child and that crap), and soul. I think that my views on music today are best summed up by a quote by Dan Aykroyd from Blues Brothers 2000:

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Remember this: Walk away now and you walk away from your crafts, your skills, your vocations; leaving the next generation with nothing but recycled, digitally-sampled techno-grooves, quasi-synth rhythms, pseudo-songs of violence-laden gansta-rap, acid pop, and simpering, saccharine, soulless slush. Depart now and you forever separate yourselves from the vital American legacies of Robert Johnson, Muddy Waters, Willie Dixon, Jimmie Reed, Memphis Slim, Blind Boy Fuller, Louie Jordan, Little Walter, Big Walter, Sonnyboy Williamson 1 and 2, Otis Redding, Jackie Wilson, Elvis Pressley, Lieber and Stoller, and Robert K. Weiss.

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Turn your backs now and you snuff out the fragile candles of Blues, R&B, and Soul; and when those flames flicker and expire, the light of the world is extinguished because the music which has moved mankind through seven decades leading to the millenium will wither and die on the vine of abandonment and neglect.

I love that quote so much that I printed it out and taped it to my closet door in my room. I read it everyday; it says alot about who I am.

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Spooky
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Joined: Jul 15, 2001
Posted: Jun 12, 2003 9:34 PM

Sparks got it, and So did Venkman. Oh and when the two-tone movement dissapered.

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IDaMan008
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Joined: Oct 14, 2002
Posted: Jun 13, 2003 2:10 AM

I wouldn't go so far as to say that rock is dead, it just continued to evolve past the point where it could be recognized as rock. It split into at least five different sub-genres in the past three decades. All music is progressing into a post-modern period in which musicians are reducing their art to its simplest elements and experimenting by recombining them in controlled amounts.

The problem with music is the record labels that try to make genres of music mainstream and profitable for themselves. They even have the audacity to refer to the tripe that they want everybody to buy as Popular music. But in reality, there are still a lot of great things happening at the forefront that will most likely take years to become mainstream. There's even a lot of stuff that isn't quite so cutting edge and isn't pop that's good.

Music is evolving, and I don't see a problem with that.

PS-Robert K. Weiss was one of the producers of The Blues Brothers. (I didn't look that up, I know because he also wrote the pilot episode of Sliders with Tracy Torme. God, I miss Sliders.)

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Bluto Blutarsky
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Joined: May 30, 2003
Posted: Jun 13, 2003 3:28 AM

Yeah, I know that Robert K. Weiss is one of the producers of The Blues Brothers. I saw it in the opening credits and knew he was a producer even before I saw Blues Brothers 2000.

But I just hate how the record labels jump on whatever music is popular and spew out all these artists of whatever genre just to make more money. It leaves so many other types opf music in the dust. Have you ever seen the blues section in a music store? It's freaking tiny. Then there are shelves and shelves of whatever the record labels are pimping this month.

Look, I know that these guys need to make thier money, but why do the just introduce one genre and exploit the hell out of it? They should make artists in lots of genres, not just one, popular. This way we'd have more variety and people would actually be able to choose what genre they like for themselves and not just be drawn to whatever is popular.
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Ema
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Joined: Feb 16, 2003
Posted: Jun 13, 2003 6:27 AM

Bluto I 100% agree with you about the music stores. The Blues section dose be tiny, and if I'm in a music shop and I go over to the Blues section, other teenagers look at me strangly.
I also love the Dan Aykroyd quote from Blues Brothers 2000. It is true. We can't let the Blues, R&B, and Soul die!!!! We can't!!!!

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Turn your backs now and you snuff out the fragile candles of Blues, R&B, and Soul; and when those flames flicker and expire, the light of the world is extinguished because the music which has moved mankind through seven decades leading to the millenium will wither and die on the vine of abandonment and neglect. - Dan Aykroyd, Blues brothers 2000
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Greebo
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Joined: May 15, 2003
Posted: Jun 13, 2003 7:56 AM

Blues is not dead, we still have artists releasing new CD's, and some of them do enjoy mainstream success, albeit mainly in the US, (Johnny Lang and Blues Traveler, a band incidentally, named after both the Blues Brothers and Ghostbusters, spring to mind, both of whom I'm massive fans of). As long as you can go buy the CD's and see people perform live, a musical genre will never die. Yes the blues has become less popular, but so much has evolved from it, that its spirit will never die.
The concept of producing handpicked bands is not a new one, and goes back to the 60's. Steps et all is just a natural evolution of the corporate production that started with such bands as the Monkees.
The internet has helped the plight of musical stylings that have fallen out of the public eye, there are webradio stations out there from all over the world covering all styles. I get my Classic Rock fix from Q104.3 in New York, whilst listening late night saturday to the Grateful Dead Hour from a wide section of streams from all over the west coast.
A persons musical choices often relate to their personality. They have to be able to relate to it or feel for it. And sadly, the majority of modern youths relate to sound with no soul. I blame society. And advertising executives.


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Lion-O
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Joined: May 18, 2003
Posted: Jun 13, 2003 11:25 AM

Ok people hold you're horses im here to clear it up!
Ok now days you get SO much crap on the radio yes i love blues but i like rock more, now i want somebody to name me a good song out nowdays were the people play an instrument?


Now i no someone will so he's what i say-------- Rock sould come back people like Jimmy Page and Rory Gallagher(Is already dead) are gonna die with there name and people will be like how the hell is Jimmy Page and Led Zeppelin this makes no sense im of to Russia, i play guitar and am in a band thats does music like the 60/70and sometimes 80's bands!
I like to play things like Hendix and he helped so much music along with the res.
If it wasnt for Rory Gallagher there would be no U2 and other Irish bands i think Thin Lizzy got help from him too!

now i say tand with me and shout "BLUES AND ROCK WILL COME BACK JUST WAIT THAT WILL BE THE DAY NO-BODY FORGETS!!!!!!!!!!!!"
I thank you.



By the way Rory Gallagher did rock and blues and if you dont know who he is i wish you die in a car crash BYE!

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